{"id":39,"date":"2015-11-11T12:52:41","date_gmt":"2015-11-11T12:52:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/dev\/?page_id=39"},"modified":"2015-11-11T12:52:41","modified_gmt":"2015-11-11T12:52:41","slug":"ipg2-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/dev\/ipg2-2\/","title":{"rendered":"IPG 2.2 Game Play Error \u2014 Looking at Extra Cards"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Definition<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n
A player looks at a card they were not entitled to see.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Penalty<\/strong><\/h3>\n

Warning<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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This infraction is pretty easy to commit. Any time you touch a library, it is possible you are going to drop a card, or flip a card over; or when drawing you might pick up two cards and see the face of the card below.<\/p>\n

Generally, when we are talking about Looking at Extra Cards (L@EC), we are talking about a player seeing the face of some card in his or her own deck. However, you might also see some cards in your opponent\u2019s deck while shuffling it.<\/p>\n

Additionally, the Drawing Extra Cards<\/a> infraction covers situations where you are looking at some number of cards on the top of your library and you look at too many of them. So, in this specific case, you are looking at extra cards, but you aren\u2019t Looking At Extra Cards, you are Drawing Extra Cards. Does your brain hurt? Mine does. <\/p>\n

For clarification, dropping a card while shuffling your own library is not L@EC. Just put the card back and continue to randomize your deck.<\/em><\/p>\n

Observing the face of a card your opponent dropped or flipped is also not L@EC. There are two reasons for this: 1) If I could drop a card and get you a Warning, I\u2019m going to messy-shuffle my way into a top 8. 2) MTR 3.12<\/a> allows me to reveal hidden information that I am entitled to know to my opponent.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Players are considered to have looked at a card when they have been able to observe the face of a hidden card, or when a card is moved any significant amount from a deck, but before it touches the other cards in their hand.<\/p>\n

This includes errors of dexterity or catching a play error before the card is placed into his or her hand.<\/p>\n

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This sentence defines the boundaries of L@EC. But it has to be taken within the context of Drawing Extra Cards<\/a>. As mentioned in the section above, Drawing Extra Cards claims some of the space L@EC used to have. When you are manipulating a set of cards from the top of the library, and you manipulate too many of them, that\u2019s considered DEC now. L@EC covers when you knock over a card, drop a card while shuffling, start to draw a card when you shouldn’t, milling or dredging too many cards. It does not cover looking at 8 cards from dig through time, or a Scry 2 when it should have only been a Scry 1.<\/p>\n

If you’ve seen the face of a card you aren’t supposed to, it\u2019s L@EC. The \u201cmoved any significant amount from the deck\u201d is there so the judge doesn\u2019t have to deal with the \u201cdid they\/didn\u2019t they see the card\u201d question. If it\u2019s a \u201csignificant\u201d amount away, it\u2019s L@EC.<\/p>\n

Sometimes a player will go to draw a card they aren\u2019t supposed to, or pick up two cards to draw when they are only supposed to draw one. In those cases where the player hasn\u2019t put the card in the hand and, fortunately, stops his\/her action before the cards enter the hand, the penalty is Looking at Extra Cards and not Drawing Extra Cards<\/a> (DEC). There is a line, at which it stops being L@EC and become DEC: when the card hits the rest of the cards in the hand. In this case judges have no way to adequately determine which card was drawn, so the penalty must be Drawing Extra Cards. But what if the player has no cards in hand, and makes this draw? When there is no \u201chand\u201d for the card to hit? If the player notices right away and hasn\u2019t taken any significant game actions, then L@EC is fine. Otherwise, consider DEC.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Once a card has been placed into his or her hand, the offense is no longer Looking at Extra Cards.<\/p>\n

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As mentioned before, there is a big difference – from an infraction standpoint – between Looking at Extra Cards and Drawing Extra Cards<\/a>. This sentence is explicitly pointing out that line again. Once the card hits the hand, it is part of the hand. Also, if you draw a card, and keep it separate from your hand, you have still \u201cdrawn\u201d it if you take another game action.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

A player is not considered to have looked at extra cards when he or she places a card face down on the table (without looking at the card) in an effort to count out cards he or she will draw.<\/p>\n

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Sometimes players put cards on the table face down before drawing them, for the purpose of counting the cards or for thinking before putting the cards into the hand. This is not forbidden and judges should not penalize it. In this situation the difference is that the player does it intentionally and takes care about not seeing any cards improperly.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

This penalty is applied only once if one or more cards are seen in the same action or sequence of actions.<\/p>\n

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We don\u2019t penalize a player for each card seen if all the cards are seen during the same game action or sequence of game actions.<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Examples<\/h2>\n