\nAbella has 1 card in hand. During Nigel’s end step he casts Dismember<\/a> targeting the zombie token. On her turn Abella attacks with Grave Titan<\/a>, and after the zombies have been put on the battlefield both players realize Abella forgot her Eldrazi Monument<\/a> trigger. Abella calls for a judge.<\/p>\n If Abella has a Deceiver Exarch<\/a> in hand, would she be able to sacrifice the Exarch to the monument trigger?<\/p>\n [expand title=”View Answer”] So what we have here is certainly a missed trigger infraction. Even better, this missed trigger does not have a default action. It looks like the type of thing that would be a default action, but unfortunately is not.<\/p>\n We definitely want to award a Failure to Maintain Game State penalty here. It does not seem like Nigel gained advantage here, but what if he has Mind Control<\/a>, or something along those lines? It is very easy to overlook advantage and Failure to Maintain Game State should be assigned accordingly.<\/p>\n There is a caveat that allows us to rewind actions, but it would not apply here. Attackers have been declared and a trigger has resolved, we are not partway through an action. The missed trigger infraction does not let us involve objects that are new to the zone in which the ability triggered. While we can flash in Deceiver Exarch<\/a> it can not be sacrificed.<\/p>\n The Exarch might have been drawn this turn! This highlights the danger in rewinding a missed trigger, something we never want to do. If the Exarch has been drawn this turn then we want to try and minimize the damage from the extra draw. While this might seem unfair to the player with the Grave Titan<\/a> remember that had they remembered their trigger they could have flashed in the Exarch if they had it.<\/p>\n Summary<\/strong>: In order to make the point a little more clear, if Abella has a means to sacrifice the Grave Titan<\/a> (Ashnod’s Altar<\/a>, Momentous Fall<\/a>, etc) then she could respond to the Eldrazi Monument<\/a> trigger currently on the stack. When the trigger resolves she can now sacrifice no creatures that were on the battlefield during the time the trigger happened and must now sacrifice the monument! Remember that we are always looking at what the game state (and the battlefield in particular) looked like when the trigger happened, in this case at the beginning of the upkeep. At a competitive REL event Abella controls , , and a 3\/3 Zombie Token. Abella has 1 card in hand. During Nigel’s end step he casts targeting the zombie token. On her turn Abella attacks with , and after the zombies have been put on the battlefield both players realize Abella forgot her trigger. Abella […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[7,17,59],"language":[56],"class_list":["post-51","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-silver","tag-competitive-rel","tag-ipg","tag-missed-trigger","language-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=51"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":286,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51\/revisions\/286"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=51"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=51"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=51"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/knowledgepool\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=51"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
\nWhat do you do?<\/p>\n
\nIt’s a missed trigger, with no default action<\/strong> (if you can’t, not if you don’t) and an effect on the the visual representation of the game. So the trigger goes on the stack. Deceiver Exarch<\/a> would be allowed to be played because players can respond to the trigger once it on the stack.<\/p>\n
\nWhat we have here is a missed trigger that gets placed on the stack.
\nRemember that triggers do not have a visual representation. Eldrazi Monument<\/a> triggered at the approriate time, both players just forgot to put that trigger on the stack. When we look at the missed trigger from this perspective I think it makes less sense to be able to sacrifice a Deceiver Exarch<\/a>, or for that matter any new creature. At the time the trigger occurred the only creature on the battlefield was Grave Titan<\/a>, and as such it is the only creature able to be sacrificed.<\/p>\n
\n[\/expand]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"