{"id":2143,"date":"2012-06-05T15:33:34","date_gmt":"2012-06-05T20:33:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/?p=2143"},"modified":"2015-02-05T16:04:38","modified_gmt":"2015-02-06T00:04:38","slug":"official-ruling-for-cavern-of-souls-creature-spells-of-the-named-type-can-never-be-countered","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/2012\/06\/official-ruling-for-cavern-of-souls-creature-spells-of-the-named-type-can-never-be-countered\/","title":{"rendered":"[O]fficial ruling for Cavern of Souls: Creature spells of the named type can never be countered."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p><img  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Cavern of Souls'><\/p><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Cavern+of+Souls&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Cavern of Souls<\/a> is seeing a lot of attention lately, especially with a question that popped up a few weeks back, as well as the reversal of the ruling that was given. The question was what the &#8216;standard&#8217; is for Cavern. If you tap it without saying which of the two mana abilities you&#8217;re using, which is the default? It&#8217;s tricky, because other cards similar to Cavern have existed, but it&#8217;s always clear which you&#8217;ve used [if you tap <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Grove+of+the+Burnwillows&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Grove of the Burnwillows<\/a>, it&#8217;ll have an immediate effect on the game state by changing life totals. Ditto for <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Sulfurous+Springs&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Sulfurous Springs<\/a>]. With Cavern, it&#8217;s not clear. Without a &#8216;default&#8217;, you&#8217;d have to ask your opponent which he did, basically giving away that you have a counter and want to know if you can use it, which rewards your opponent for being ambiguous.<\/p>\n<p>With that in mind, the higher-ups in the Judging world discussed it, and ORIGINALLY declared that the default was the colorless; you had to declare otherwise. That is no longer the case, thanks to a recent reversal. Right now, the [O]fficial ruling on it is that if you tap a Cavern to pay for a creature spell that matches the type named for that Cavern, that you&#8217;re producing colored (uncounterable) mana unless you say otherwise. So, if you tap a Cavern set to &#8220;Giant&#8221;, 3 Forests, and 2 Islands to cast a <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Primeval+Titan&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Primeval Titan<\/a>, that Titan is uncounterable unless you say that you&#8217;re using colorless mana with your Cavern. Because of this, it&#8217;s very important that both players know exactly what creature type Cavern is naming at all times.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s Tournament Tip written by<br \/>\nTrevor Nu\u00f1ez, Level 1 judge from Roswell, NM<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>is seeing a lot of attention lately, especially with a question that popped up a few weeks back, as well as the reversal of the ruling that was given. The question was what the &#8216;standard&#8217; is for Cavern. If you tap it without saying which of the two mana abilities you&#8217;re using, which is the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[718],"language":[1196],"class_list":["post-2143","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tournamentrules","tag-cavern-of-souls","language-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2143","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2143"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2143\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4721,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2143\/revisions\/4721"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2143"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2143"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2143"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=2143"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}