{"id":2146,"date":"2012-06-06T13:38:24","date_gmt":"2012-06-06T18:38:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/?p=2146"},"modified":"2015-02-05T16:04:38","modified_gmt":"2015-02-06T00:04:38","slug":"torpor-orb-has-no-interaction-with-undying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/2012\/06\/torpor-orb-has-no-interaction-with-undying\/","title":{"rendered":"Torpor Orb has no interaction with undying."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p><img  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Torpor Orb'><\/p><br \/>\nI hate zombies. Kill them once and they never seem to stay dead. One Zombie card that has been seeing some Standard play is <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Geralf%26%238217%3Bs+Messenger&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Geralf&#8217;s Messenger<\/a>, a 3\/2 with undying that deals out 2 points of life loss every time it enters the battlefield. Luckily, there&#8217;s a rather unique card in Standard, <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Torpor+Orb&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Torpor Orb<\/a>, that can stop these shenanigans. However, if I thought I could use Torpor Orb to stop the undying ability, I&#8217;d be sadly mistaken.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a list of things Torpor Orb can and cannot do in this case:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Torpor Orb CANNOT prevent the undying ability from happening. This is because it only prevents triggered abilities whose trigger condition is a creature entering the battlefield. Undying causes a creature to enter the battlefield as part of its effect, but the trigger condition is a creature dying.<\/li>\n<li>Torpor Orb CANNOT stop undying from putting a +1\/+1 counter on a creature. Adding the counter is not a triggered ability, but rather an additional effect that occurs as part of undying&#8217;s resolution. No player gets priority between the creature entering the battlefield and the counter being put on, because that all happens as one action.<\/li>\n<li>Torpor Orb CAN prevent other abilities from triggering as a result of an undying creature re-entering the battlefield. The Orb doesn&#8217;t care where the creature entered from, and it stops all abilities that would trigger off this event, not just that creature&#8217;s own enters-the-battlefield abilities. For example, a <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Flayer+of+the+Hatebound&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Flayer of the Hatebound<\/a> on the battlefield would not trigger when Geralf&#8217;s Messenger comes back via undying, and the Messenger&#8217;s own enters-the-battlefield ability also would not trigger.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Today&#8217;s Rules Tip written by<br \/>\nJen Wong, Level 1 judge from Irvine, CA<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I hate zombies. Kill them once and they never seem to stay dead. One Zombie card that has been seeing some Standard play is , a 3\/2 with undying that deals out 2 points of life loss every time it enters the battlefield. Luckily, there&#8217;s a rather unique card in Standard, , that can stop [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[660,671,294],"language":[1196],"class_list":["post-2146","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-triggeredabilities","tag-flayer-of-the-hatebound","tag-geralfs-messenger","tag-torpor-orb","language-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2146","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2146"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2146\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4720,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2146\/revisions\/4720"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2146"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2146"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2146"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=2146"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}