{"id":2959,"date":"2013-01-28T14:49:12","date_gmt":"2013-01-28T20:49:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/?p=2959"},"modified":"2015-02-05T16:02:34","modified_gmt":"2015-02-06T00:02:34","slug":"tokens-vs-cards-theres-a-difference","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/2013\/01\/tokens-vs-cards-theres-a-difference\/","title":{"rendered":"If Dinrova Horror bounces a token, it can&#8217;t be discarded!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tokens, in the realms of the game, are not cards.<\/p>\n<p>That may shock some people, as they hold their 1\/1 white soldiers token in their hands and go &#8220;It looks like a card, it feels like a card, it taste like a card, why isn\u2019t it one?&#8221; (The Judge Rules Blog does not endorse anybody playing with any type of licked cardboard). In terms of magic rules, a &#8220;card&#8221; is anything that exists in your decklist. So a Magic card in your 60 card or 40 card deck (depending on your format of choice) and the items in your sideboard.<\/p>\n<p>As you may know, tokens can exist on the battlefield; in fact, there are several ways you can create tokens throughout Magic&#8217;s history. You may also know that when a token leaves the battlefield, it &#8220;disappears&#8221;. This is due to state-based actions. Yes, the same state-based actions that we all know and love. A very classic SBA for example is &#8220;destroying&#8221; a creature when it has damage marked on it that is equal to or exceeds its toughness.<\/p>\n<p>When a token goes into a zone that it can&#8217;t exist in (anything that&#8217;s not the battlefield), when SBAs are checked, the game says &#8220;YOU\u2019RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE HERE!&#8221; and boots it out of that zone (and out of existence), hence removing it completely from the game.<\/p>\n<p>Why should you care for Gatecrash, you say? There are several cards in this set that refers to &#8220;cards,&#8221; and a token is not that.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Dinrova+Horror&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Dinrova Horror<\/a><br \/>\nExample time! Eddie is playing against Jason at their local Gatecrash pre-release. Jason controls several 2\/2 knight tokens when Eddie plays Dinrova Horror; it comes into play targeting one of the tokens.<\/p>\n<p>Jason puts the token in his hand, and reads the second line of Dinrova Horror. &#8220;&#8230;then that player discards a card.&#8221; Jason, being a smart lad, knows that SBAs can&#8217;t be checked in the middle of a spell or ability resolving, so he tries to discard the token that&#8217;s in his hand, because SBAs haven&#8217;t kicked in yet and taken it from his hand.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately for Jason, the rules are built to stop this from happening. A token is not a card, and therefore this is an illegal action for Jason to take! Jason will have to part with one of his actual precious cards in his hand.<\/p>\n<p>Couple of quick examples before we leave&#8230;<br \/>\nThis rule also means that <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Duskmantle+Guildmage&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Duskmantle Guildmage<\/a>\u2019s first ability would NOT count tokens. And <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Lazav%2C+Dimir+Mastermind&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Lazav, Dimir Mastermind<\/a> CANNOT copy creature tokens.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s Rules Tip written by Eddie Cheung<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tokens, in the realms of the game, are not cards. That may shock some people, as they hold their 1\/1 white soldiers token in their hands and go &#8220;It looks like a card, it feels like a card, it taste like a card, why isn\u2019t it one?&#8221; (The Judge Rules Blog does not endorse anybody [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[15,5],"tags":[915],"language":[1196],"class_list":["post-2959","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-resolving-spells-and-abilities","category-state-basedactions","tag-dinrova-horror","language-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2959","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2959"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2959\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3085,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2959\/revisions\/3085"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2959"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2959"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2959"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=2959"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}