{"id":3379,"date":"2013-06-13T07:00:30","date_gmt":"2013-06-13T14:00:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/?p=3379"},"modified":"2015-02-05T15:54:49","modified_gmt":"2015-02-05T23:54:49","slug":"wall-of-roots-and-11-counters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/2013\/06\/wall-of-roots-and-11-counters\/","title":{"rendered":"Wall of Roots and +1\/+1 Counters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?multiverseid=106662&amp;type=card\" width=\"223\" height=\"310\" \/>There was a time when counters didn&#8217;t cancel each other out on the same permanent; you could have a bunch of +1\/+1 counters and a few -1\/-1 counters on a creature and they&#8217;d just co-exist happily on that creature, in case anything cared. With the Lorwyn block, that got changed up because it was a little confusing, and it also allowed you to do cool stuff like use +1\/+1 counters to cancel out the -1\/-1 counters from Persist, &#8216;resetting&#8217; the creatures (or using -1\/-1 counters to do the same with Undying, though that came a bit later!)<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s worth noting that this is the ONLY time counters cancel out. Blaze counter and Ice counter on the same <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Dark+Depths&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Dark Depths<\/a>? That&#8217;s fine. Your <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Wall+of+Roots&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Wall of Roots<\/a> shrunk for mana production over the past few turns, and you want to try and cancel that out with <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Sacred+Boon&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Sacred Boon<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Living+Armor&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Living Armor<\/a>? No dice. Sleep and Awakening counters, Despair and Devotion counters, Healing and Death counters, no matter how silly they seem together, they do NOT cancel out. Only +1\/+1 counters and -1\/-1 counters cancel, and only with each other. So you&#8217;re not gonna be able to &#8216;reset&#8217; your <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Wall+of+Roots&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Wall of Roots<\/a> with any sort of counters! Not with +0\/+1, not with +1\/+1, not with Fungus, etc, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s Rules Tip written by Trevor Nunez<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There was a time when counters didn&#8217;t cancel each other out on the same permanent; you could have a bunch of +1\/+1 counters and a few -1\/-1 counters on a creature and they&#8217;d just co-exist happily on that creature, in case anything cared. With the Lorwyn block, that got changed up because it was a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":27,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[148,108,70,5],"tags":[968],"language":[1196],"class_list":["post-3379","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-abilities","category-activatedabilities","category-mana-abilities","category-state-basedactions","tag-wall-of-roots","language-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3379","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/27"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3379"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3379\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4586,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3379\/revisions\/4586"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3379"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3379"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3379"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=3379"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}