{"id":3866,"date":"2013-11-22T07:00:09","date_gmt":"2013-11-22T15:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/?p=3866"},"modified":"2015-02-05T15:52:10","modified_gmt":"2015-02-05T23:52:10","slug":"putting-prossh-jeleva-or-marath-onto-the-battlefield-without-casting-them-isnt-that-great","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/2013\/11\/putting-prossh-jeleva-or-marath-onto-the-battlefield-without-casting-them-isnt-that-great\/","title":{"rendered":"Putting Prossh, Jeleva, or Marath onto the battlefield without casting them isn&#8217;t that great."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p><img  style='float:left'  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Prossh, Skyraider of Kher'><\/p><p><img  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Jeleva, Nephalia%27s Scourge'><\/p><p><img  style='float:left'  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Marath, Will of the Wild'><\/p>Each of these new Commanders provide value in the long game by making the &#8220;Commander tax&#8221; pay for itself through an added bonus based on the mana spent to cast the Commander. So the more times your Commander dies, the more you &#8220;get&#8221; to pay for them and the greater the benefit you get from doing so. You can&#8217;t just arbitrarily pay extra mana for a spell, so the additional cost becomes an important aspect of these cards. In fact, this also applies to any other cost increasers (e.g., <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Grand+Arbiter+Augustin+IV&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Grand Arbiter Augustin IV<\/a>) or reducers (e.g., <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Helm+of+Awakening&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Helm of Awakening<\/a>); the actual amount paid is what the abilities care about, regardless of the printed mana cost.<\/p>\n<p>However, putting one of these Commanders onto the battlefield &#8220;for free&#8221;, such as by returning it from the graveyard, putting it out with <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Show+and+Tell&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Show and Tell<\/a>, or casting it by discarding a card to <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Dream+Halls&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Dream Halls<\/a>, means you didn&#8217;t pay any mana to cast it, and those abilities don&#8217;t do anything.<\/p>\n<p>Prossh triggers when you cast him specifically anyway, so putting him onto the battlefield directly bypasses that whole process; but even if you cast him for free, the triggered ability asks &#8220;How much mana did you spend to cast me?&#8221; and gets the answer &#8220;0&#8221; so you get 0 Kobolds.<\/p>\n<p>Jeleva triggers when she enters, and that trigger asks the same question. If she wasn&#8217;t cast or was cast for free, the trigger gets the same &#8220;0&#8221; answer and nobody exiles any cards.<\/p>\n<p>Marath is especially bad if you don&#8217;t pay mana to cast it&#8230; It will enter with 0 counters, and will (most likely) die immediately.<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s Rules Tip written by Josh Stansfield<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you\u2019re not casting Prossh, Jeleva, or Marath, their cast\/enter the battlefield abilities won\u2019t do anything.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[29,33,8],"tags":[1047,1054,1053],"language":[1196],"class_list":["post-3866","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-casting-playing-a-spell-ability","category-preventionandreplacementeffects","category-triggeredabilities","tag-jeleva-nephalias-scourge","tag-marath-will-of-the-wild","tag-prossh-skyraider-of-kher","language-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3866","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3866"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3866\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3869,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3866\/revisions\/3869"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3866"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3866"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3866"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=3866"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}