{"id":5316,"date":"2015-05-27T07:00:05","date_gmt":"2015-05-27T14:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/?p=5316"},"modified":"2015-05-19T16:15:39","modified_gmt":"2015-05-19T23:15:39","slug":"modern-masters-week-persist-and-11-counters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/2015\/05\/modern-masters-week-persist-and-11-counters\/","title":{"rendered":"Modern Masters Week: Persist and +1\/+1 Counters"},"content":{"rendered":"

<\/p>Hello and welcome to our third day of Modern Masters Week! Today we’ll be covering a mechanic from the Shadowmoor block (one half of the Lorwyn megablock): Persist. Those of you who were playing during Avacyn Restored and Dark Ascension may remember Undying, where your creatures came back a little stronger after a normal death. Persist is the original version of that, and the exact opposite: they come back WEAKER instead of STRONGER. Whenever a creature with Persist dies, if it had no -1\/-1 counters on it, it comes back with a -1\/-1 counter. Fairly simple- whether it dies from a removal spell, burn, being shrunk by a Nameless Inversion, or regular old combat, it’ll come back a little weaker. The only way it doesn’t is if it had a -1\/-1 counter at the time it died. What you may not know is how that interacts with +1\/+1 counters, because WotC has tried pretty hard to make sure +1\/+1 and -1\/-1 counters aren’t kicking around in Standard at the same time for a little while. If a creature has some number of +1\/+1 and -1\/-1 counters on it, they cancel each other out completely, 1 to 1. So if your creature has 2 +1\/+1 counters on it, and then gets a -1\/-1, it won’t have 3 counters. It’ll end up just having a single +1\/+1 counter. Now, where that comes in handy is Graft! A fair few creatures in Modern Masters 2015 have Graft, which allows you to move a +1\/+1 counter from them onto a new creature as that new creature hits the board. What that means is that you can Graft a counter over to your Restless Apparition<\/a> and render it a normal 2\/2, able to Persist right back again! It’s also useful to note that the counters can’t cancel mid-ability or mid-spell. If your opponent has a +1\/+1 counter-clad creature, you can cast Grim Affliction<\/a> to give it a -1\/-1 counter, and you’ll Proliferate before the rules make those counters ‘cancel out’. <\/p>\n

Also worth noting: Persist doesn’t actually bring the creature back until it resolves. If your opponent hits your Clique with a Surgical Extraction<\/a> or a Necrogenesis<\/a> with the trigger on the stack, the trigger will resolve and do nothing!<\/p>\n

Today’s Rules Tip was written by Trevor Nunez<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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