{"id":6714,"date":"2019-02-22T07:00:44","date_gmt":"2019-02-22T15:00:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/?p=6714"},"modified":"2019-02-22T07:31:33","modified_gmt":"2019-02-22T15:31:33","slug":"objects-entering-simultaneously","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/2019\/02\/objects-entering-simultaneously\/","title":{"rendered":"Objects Entering Simultaneously"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p><img  style='float:right'  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Scapeshift'><\/p>Good morning and welcome back to the Rules Tips Blog! Today we&#8217;re going to be covering how the game handles multiple objects entering the battlefield at the same time! There&#8217;s only a few ways for this to go down in Standard- things like <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Scapeshift&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Scapeshift<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Gruesome+Menagerie&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Gruesome Menagerie<\/a>. But places like Modern and Commander are dripping with plenty of ways for it to happen, so you need to be prepared when it does!<\/p>\n<p>First: If the objects are truly entering together, then it&#8217;s sort of a binary thing. They&#8217;re all NOT on the battlefield, and then they all ARE. They don&#8217;t come in one at a time, so there&#8217;s no order for you to determine. They all just show up together at the exact same time. This can work a little weird with replacement effects. For example, let&#8217;s say you use <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Gruesome+Menagerie&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Gruesome Menagerie<\/a> to bring back a <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Mirror+Image&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Mirror Image<\/a>, a <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Dimir+Spybug&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Dimir Spybug<\/a>, and a <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Barrier+of+Bones&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Barrier of Bones<\/a>. You&#8217;d sure like to use your Mirror Image to copy the Spybug, so they&#8217;ll both be 2\/2s after Barrier surveils- or maybe put all your eggs in one basket and have it copy Barrier, so that your Spybug is a 3\/3! Unfortunately, neither of those are possible. Mirror Image&#8217;s replacement effect looks at the battlefield the moment right before it enters, and says &#8220;Hey- I can copy any of the creatures you currently control as I enter!&#8221;. And at that time, Spybug and Barrier are also waiting in your graveyard, not quite on the battlefield yet. Since they&#8217;re not on the board, your Mirror Image can&#8217;t copy them- sad times!<\/p>\n<p><p><img  style='float:left'  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Hinterland Harbor'><\/p>The same is true of any replacement effect that modifies the way the object is entering, not just creatures. Let&#8217;s say you resolve <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=The+Great+Aurora&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">The Great Aurora<\/a> and you get a grip full of lands. One of them is a <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Hinterland+Harbor&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Hinterland Harbor<\/a>, one is a <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Stomping+Ground&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Stomping Ground<\/a>, and there&#8217;s a fair few Forests, Islands, and Mountains among them as well. They&#8217;re all gonna come down at once, and you have two replacement effects kicking around as they do- Stomping Ground says that unless you pay 2 life, it&#8217;ll come in tapped, so you&#8217;ll make that choice. And Harbor enters tapped unless you control an Island or a Forest. At the moment the Harbor is about to enter, you don&#8217;t control ANY lands, since Aurora shuffled everything in- so Harbor is coming in tapped. The game doesn&#8217;t know (or care) that there&#8217;es ABOUT to be a hot mess of Forests and Islands on the battlefield- at this exact moment, where Harbor is checking for them, there aren&#8217;t any. <\/p>\n<p><p><img  style='float:right'  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Immortal Servitude'><\/p>So that&#8217;s replacement effects handled- what about triggers? Triggers are a bit easier- the replacement effects can&#8217;t &#8220;see&#8221; the other objects that are entering, but triggers actually can. Let&#8217;s be casting <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Immortal+Servitude&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Immortal Servitude<\/a> for X=1, and we&#8217;re yanking four copies each of <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Soul+Warden&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Soul Warden<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-content\/plugins\/lems-mtg-helper\/lems-mtg-helper-cardfinder.php?find=Soul%26%238217%3Bs+Attendant&width=223&height=310\" class=\"jTip\" name=\"\">Soul&#8217;s Attendant<\/a>. Each of those 8 creatures &#8220;sees&#8221; the other 7 enter alongside it&#8230; and in this case, trigger appropriately. So for each Warden, you have 3 triggers from other Wardens, and 4 triggers from the Attendants. And for each Attendant, you have 3 triggers for the other Attendants, and 4 triggers for the Wardens. That&#8217;s 56 triggers gaining you 1 life each- how does gaining nearly 60 life for 4 mana sound? <\/p>\n<p>So remember- replacement effects that modify how the object enters are going to look at things immediately BEFORE the object enters, so they can&#8217;t see things coming in with them. Triggers look at things as soon as the object actually HAS entered, and can &#8216;see&#8217; any friends that came along for the ride!<\/p>\n<p>Today&#8217;s Rules Tip was written by Trevor Nunez<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img  style='float:right'  class='lems-mtg-cardimg' src='http:\/\/gatherer.wizards.com\/Handlers\/Image.ashx?size=small&#038;type=card&#038;name=Gruesome Menagerie'><\/p>\n<p> How are replacement effects and triggered abilities handled when multiple objects enter the battlefield simultaneously?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":27,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[148,29,32,33,15,17,8,122],"tags":[1440,63],"language":[1196],"class_list":["post-6714","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-abilities","category-casting-playing-a-spell-ability","category-effects","category-preventionandreplacementeffects","category-resolving-spells-and-abilities","category-staticabilities","category-triggeredabilities","category-zones","tag-gruesome-menagerie","tag-scapeshift","language-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6714","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/27"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6714"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6714\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6719,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6714\/revisions\/6719"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6714"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6714"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6714"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.magicjudges.org\/rulestips\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=6714"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}